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Deciphering the Ramey Memo

Submitted by krandle on

During the first week in July, 1947, something fell to Earth near the tiny New Mexican town of Corona and was retrieved by members of the 509th Bomb Group of the U.S. Army Air Forces stationed near Roswell, New Mexico. Limited documentation about that event has been found and much of that submitted for examination lacks any sort of provenance.

One of the few examples of such a document can be seen in the hand of Brigadier General Roger Ramey, at the time the commanding officer of the 8th Air Force. The date of the photograph has been established by various records, including those from the Bettmann Photo Archives which once held two of the negatives. It is dated July 8, 1947 and was transmitted over the INS wire service at 11:59 p.m. In that photograph Ramey is holding a piece of paper slightly turned away from the camera but on which some words can be read while others seem to be obscured. Using modern techniques and computer equipment, some of the key phrases have been identified and in research conducted in April 2015, attempts were made to decipher the rest.

Andy (not verified)

Just another disrespectful idiot who's obviously not done enough research of their own about the Roswell crash, which in actual fact there were 3 crash sites, not just 1!! As there was another, 2nd spacecraft and the 2 had impacted together and the 2nd one broke pretty much into 2 pieces and the first (roswell) craft remained almost intact. The other craft wasn't found until 1949!
Also,there are several points/people who can be cross linked to people who didn't even know one another. Do your own research!! I was sceptical to begin with but after several years researching this I'm now 100% sure that an alien craft did indeed crash in 1947 near Roswell (nearer to Corona infact) and has been covered up ever since by the US military & government. 

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Mrs Abigail (not verified)

I found that in the first sentence the words “and the viewing of the craft” and in the second  “Fort Worth,Texas”.In the third I found [undecipherable] “east” and several “for” and “of” and in what looks like the sixth sentence “body”

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Breeana Perkins (not verified)

I see “weather balloon” I see “Fort Worth” I see “away” I see “land”

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Alex (not verified)

1) senile dementia doesn't line up to your interpretation of it. It doesn't work like that and your assumption that he'd make up a story is disrespectful to people with actual dementia.
2)The diary can't be proven or disproven scientifically so that's another assumption by you.
3) I do firmly believe that this memo can't be read not even with neural link enhancement.
4)I'm highly skeptic of the topic but I gotta point out the fact that people spoke out when they saw it in a magazine and thought now it could be spoken of.
5) You also seem to be sociologically and psycho-socially ignorant as you're ignoring the different mindset and cultural background and probably not knowing how military people behave, if they're told to give it all back, they'll give it all back, the whole hierarchy of the military is funded upon obedience. You're also talking about the beginning of the US cultural dominance age in which people would be convinced the government was the best in the world and won't strongly question it until the 60s.

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Mr Jones (not verified)

Hello..
I really have no business being here, but I thought it would be fun to give it a go...
I was thinking, why not try and do it backwards. Try to guess the text, write it, blur it up and compare it...?
Link to image:
https://imgur.com/MHP0IXz

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
James (not verified)

This is a very thorough study on the meaning and content of the memo. I wish we could get a consensus on what it says and make a proper conclusion, one way or another! Perhaps technology will advance in the future and we will be able to make better analysis of old images to improve their clarity?

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Larry Mitchell (not verified)

I find it hard to believe that military personnel and pilots that were in charge of having the responsibility of delivering nuclear weapons on our enemies can't tell the difference between a weather balloon and a extraterrestrial space craft. the answer is looking us in the face. A extraterrestrial space craft crashed at Roswell.

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
katanaguy (not verified)

Back in that time Witnesses would have indeed kept quiet if told to do so by the military as we just came out of World War....people and society were just diff back then...much better people I might add. They did not have all the crazy conspirators and nut jobs we have today, they were pretty simple folk who did not get all worked up like these idiots today. I know Marcel changed his story much later....why?....did he have some early dementia issues beginning then?...was he being paid to change his story?...I do agree if there is remains of a ship and bodies...damn it just show us these things...we are not a bunch of kids and no...there will be NO PANIC of any kind...quit this 'crappy thinking'...it all sounds hokey to me...not one scrap of proof found any where?...and ALL of it scooped up by the military?...Marcel and others who handled these so called alien items surely would have kept a few pieces for themselves....and today I learned his diary he kept was PROVEN TO NOT BE WRITTEN BY HIM!...as his now adult grandkids had been topd all along....so there is still much hocus pocus with this whole story and there are way too many people making up lies just to make money on this incident especially in the last 10 yrs or so.

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Daniel C Webster (not verified)

Keep fighting the truth and they will keep lying to us you do realize W not that pareidolia is a made-up word by a arm chair debunker

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Daniel C Webster (not verified)

You have to ask yourself deep down do you believe that the only nuclear facility in the world would mistake a weather balloon for a ship seeing how they've released weather balloons on a daily basis to me that makes no sense in my experience is if a story makes no sense is not true. And certainly they would not be promoted as they all were after making supposedly one of the biggest blunders in the history of the United States I don't think so

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Jim Tippins (not verified)

"The next serious attempt to read the message seems to have been made by the Air Force during their investigation into the Roswell crash. According to the Air Force:
Additionally, the researchers obtained from the Archives of the University of Texas – Arlington (UTA), a set of original (i.e., first-generation) prints of the photographs taken at the time by the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, that depicted Ramey and Marcel with the wreckage."
 
I would question whether the real negatives were returned by the Air Force. I suspect a line has been altered after FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Jim Tippins (not verified)

It doesn't say "At Fort xxx, York.
It says "AT FORT WORTH, TEXAS."
But what is most interesting is it looks like the rest of the line is redacted!
 

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
JAVAMANO (not verified)

THE MEMO IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF PAREIDOLIA
 

Wed, 07/19/2023 - 10:53 Permalink
Arnold Schwarze... (not verified)

I have been working on figuring out what the memo says. I have been using different filters, contrast and brightness to purify it. So far I have found two things that are "against the flow" of what most people say.
Most people who try to read it are "100% sure" that the first line says "And the victims of the wreck". However, in closer examination I have found that the first line actually says "And the viewing of the wreck". As "ing" is clearly shown at the end, and there is actually no C or T shown. For the entire document, his t's have been clear and easy found and pretty constant. Yet here, the common T he has is not seen. His C would most likley be the size of his O nearby, yet where people are saying there is a C, it is nowhere near the right size or shape. 
Second, on the third line below "At Fort [undecypherable], York", there is a word in quotation marks. When I read that word, I can only see an R as the first letter. However, I can understand that it may say disk, but I think that it says the word "Rise" or "Risk", reading the sentance ; "In the 'rise'..." And the next two words are impossible to read for me, even though many people are going out on a limb and saying it reads "In the 'disk' they will ship" Which one, makes no sense, and two, it is too hard to read what it says to make any difinative claims.
 
I continue to try to read it at a rather quick pace. I have definitively found about 15 words (including at, and and to). 

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Perry Donaldson... (not verified)

In deciphering the truth in any Intelligence investigation, one always looks for an "obscure reference" that may verify a truth or establish a fact: When a close friend of Marilyn Monroe was being interviewed in the late 1990's, she was answering questions about her knowledge of Marilyn's relationship with the Kennedy's (and specifically, Bobby Kennedy, in this case), when she stopped her narrative and blurted out of context, "...and do you know that Marilyn said that Bobby told her that the government recovered an alien space ship...Can you believe that?"
This "aliens from outer space" was interjected in the middle of an interview discussing a very salacious subject of Marilyn Monroe's tryst with the Kennedy Brothers. This kind of obscure reference just has to be true! - PD

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